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An Interview with Author Mike Gerrard

Mike Gerrard is an award-winning travel and drinks writer who has contributed to newspapers, magazines, and websites in the UK and worldwide. He has also published over 40 travel guides, a collection of travel stories, and two novels. His newest nonfiction release, Behind Bars: True Crime Stories of Whiskey Heists, Beer Bandits, and Fake Million-Dollar Wines (Prometheus Books, October 2024), is filled with stories of what happens when alcohol meets crime. Look for Mike on his website MikeGerrard.com, on Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter/X, and several travel sites including Travel Distilled and Arizona Travel Guide. You’ll find his books on his Amazon author page. Behind Bars is also available on all major online bookstores through links on Prometheus Books.


In the year before releasing Behind Bars, you published three travel guides, a book about tequila, and another about bourbon. During what led up to a remarkable publishing schedule, why did you choose the project that became Behind Bars?
Before Behind Bars I had written a book about the history of barrels, Cask Strength (Matt Holt Books, 2023), and prior to that numerous travel guidebooks for publishers including National Geographic and AAA. After Cask Strength, I wanted to write another book about drinks, and I thought I was writing a book that would be filed under Food and Drink in the bookshops, but when I saw it in my publisher’s catalogue they had filed it under True Crime. Which is a much more suitable home for it. So, to my surprise, I became a True Crime writer without knowing it! I was delighted as I’m an avid reader of crime novels and True Crime stories, and I’m working on a crime novel as well.

According to your introduction to Behind Bars, a “connection has always existed between booze and crime.” You then take readers from “Scotland’s Illicit Stills” (chapter one) to great wine and whiskey frauds in “It’s Not the Real Thing.” Do you have a favorite story among all those you relate in the book?
My favorite story is definitely of the moonshine gang that operated in a place called Merry Hill in North Carolina. Two of them acted as a regular married couple and leased a mobile home, and underneath and behind it the gang built a moonshine distillery, without anyone local noticing their activity. They operated for 18 months without anyone becoming suspicious, and when they were caught they were charged with defrauding the authorities of over $1.6 million in tax revenue. That was over 50 years ago, so imagine the equivalent today, and imagine how much they must have made. And when they went to trial, some were found Not Guilty, and the ones who were sentenced to prison had their sentences later reduced to probation. Who says crime doesn’t pay?

Any “Oh, wow!” moments while doing research for Behind Bars?
Well, I was prompted to write the book partly by discovering what went on in the White House during Prohibition. Researching it further and finding that from the President on down, most of DC simply ignored Prohibition and did not go short of something to drink. I did think, “Wow, that’s how corrupt our politicians are.” You would hope things have improved, but I don’t know….

When looking for inspiration for your works, what things motivate you to write?
I’ve wanted to be a writer ever since I was about seven or eight years old. My father wrote a humor column for the local paper in the town where I grew up in the north of England, not far from Liverpool. He also did cartoons and sold some to national newspapers. This was all in his spare time. I thought it was brilliant. I started writing myself at the age of about 17, when I sold a poem to a local magazine, followed by writing one or two articles for them, and then expanding my horizons.

So to answer your question about what inspires me… simply the desire to write. To tell stories. To get experiences down in words and entertain people… and to make a living from it, which fortunately I’ve managed to do. I’ve mostly been a travel writer, so what inspires me there is seeing something that sounds like an interesting story, selling the idea to an editor, and then having to go away and write it.

What challenges have you faced as a writer, given your voluminous writing history?
The challenge is always selling a story or an idea, whether it be for a travel piece or a non-fiction book. I’ve always loved the writing, so for me the challenge is selling something, finding the right outlet. I hate pitching ideas and stories, love writing them.

Before writing travel guides, what kind of work did you do?
I started off writing general journalism pieces, a few humorous pieces, for newspapers and magazines in the UK. I liked the idea of being a travel writer so I sent in a story on spec to one of our national newspapers, based on a holiday in Greece, and to my amazement they bought it. Next time I went on holiday I wrote another piece, and they took that one too. After one or two more I asked the editor about press trips, and she explained to me that I should pitch her with a few ideas, and if she commissioned them then I could go on a press trip, or contact a tour company or tourist board, and they would set up a trip for me. In that way I built up a portfolio of work. I didn’t really think about writing guidebooks, till I got approached to do one to the Yorkshire Dales, which I thoroughly enjoyed researching and writing, and that then led to other commissions, and to me approaching other editors.

Do you have a literary agent? Why or why not?
My last job before I went full-time freelance when I was about 30 was with a literary agent in London. So I’ve always believed that you should have an agent, if you can get someone to take you on. My own agent is Linda Konner, who specializes in food and drink writers, and self-help books. I approached her with my proposal for Cask Strength, and she liked it and thought she could sell it. But she was also an enormous help in improving the proposal. I thought I’d written one that was good to go, but Linda showed me how to improve it, and there were several back and forths and me adding to it or rewriting bits of it before she was happy with it.

Who are your greatest mentors in writing? Authors who have either helped you or inspired you on your writing path?
Number one is and always has been John Steinbeck. Not that I could ever hope to write like him, but when I read Of Mice and Men as a teenager, I was hooked. It seemed to me to be the highest level of writing, and if I could only be 10 percent as good then I’d be happy. Reading good writers always inspires you to do better yourself. My other all-time favorite is Flannery O’Connor, a very different kind of writer. I used to love Hemingway but I re-read some of his stuff recently and didn’t like his mannered style at all. For travel writers, my all-time heroes are Norman Lewis, Paul Theroux and Bruce Chatwin.

Of the forty-plus books you’ve written, which one was the most challenging and which was the most enjoyable to write?
The most challenging was the first guidebook to Greece that I wrote, covering just the Greek mainland. I had to plan the trip (pre-internet days) of about 4-5 weeks, and, never having driven in Greece before, ended up driving some 5,000 miles, including through Athens, and in some remote mountain areas, all the way to the northern border with Albania, and the eastern border with Turkey. There were some hairy moments.

The most enjoyable was after I met my wife and we started writing guidebooks together, as she is also a writer. We were commissioned to write most of an official travel guide for the Rugby World Cup in France in 2007. So in 2006, we did a trip of several weeks around southern France spending several days in beautiful cities like Lyon, Montpellier, and Toulouse. My wife was less interested in touring the sports stadiums, which we had to do and which I loved, but overall it was probably the best trip we’ve ever done.

Tell us about your writing process and your writing routine.
I’ve mostly written nonfiction, so when it comes to books, they have to be worked out in full in advance, in order to sell a proposal to a publisher. When it comes to fiction, I am 100 percent a plotter. I have to know the full story, and know where it’s headed, before I write it. But strangely when it comes to travel writing, it’s very different. I always take copious notes on trips, but never plan out a story. I always need to have an opening sentence in my head before I sit down to write, and then from that sentence I just let it go wherever it takes me, using my notes and photos and my most vivid memories. Luckily that always worked for me. I’m just able to do it, in a way I can’t when writing fiction. I won several awards for my travel writing, so it must have been OK.

I write almost every day and always have several ideas on the go. I used to feel guilty about this and kept telling myself I should focus on one thing at a time, till I went to a talk by Joanne Harris who said she always had lots of projects on the go, at different stages, and she just waited till one of them took over.

Knowing what you know now, what would you do differently if you started your writing/publishing career today?
I think for travel writing, I would focus on my own websites, rather than working for other people. For fiction, in a similar way, I would strongly focus on self-publishing, but go in for it 100% rather than just sit back and wait for something to happen. The more personal control you have over your work, the better.

You’ve written both fiction and nonfiction. How does your experience as a nonfiction writer benefit your fiction writing?
When you’re writing non-fiction you have deadlines, briefs and word counts, and you’d better pay attention to them all. It teaches you that you can’t sit around waiting for inspiration. A newspaper wants 1,000 words by such a date, or a guidebook publisher wants 30,000 words by such a date — and you cannot miss those deadlines. It teaches you to sit down and write, every day, for as long as it takes.

In writing hundreds of travel pieces for newspapers and magazines, I learned that you have to have an opening that grabs people’s attention, then you have to make the piece flow so you never lose their attention. You also have to wrap it up in a satisfactory way. That discipline then carries across to fiction and you can apply it to either scenes or chapters or a whole book. Start it well, keep the momentum going, and then have a good ending that ties things together. Easier said than done, of course!

What advice would you give to writers who are just starting out?
Develop a thick skin as you will probably face rejection after rejection. Almost everyone does — JK Rowling, The Beatles, Stephen King…even Dr Seuss was rejected by 27 publishers but went on to huge and long-lasting success.


Christina Sultan is a former Albuquerque and Santa Fe, New Mexico resident who joined SouthWest Writers in 2022. A graduate of the English literature program at McGill University, Montreal, she has been an avid reader and writer of literary criticism all her life. She interned as a journalist at United Press International before working at the Whistler Question Newspaper and Whistler Magazine. She then went on to obtain a master’s degree in business in California. She was named to Who’s Who U.S.A. in 2007 and devotes much of her time to working in the arts, investments, and the humanities.




An Interview with Dr. Rinita Mazumdar, Part 2

Rinita Mazumdar, PhD is an author and poet and one of the leading feminist scholars in the Southwest. She has taught Philosophy for over 30 years in different locations across the U.S., including the University of New Mexico and Central New Mexico Community College. Her nonfiction book Unspoken Hindu Genocides and Ethnic Cleansing is a translation of Sandip Mukherji’s Noakhali 1946 and was released by Community Publishing in October 2024. Look for Dr. Mazumdar on her blog and podcast, as well as on LinkedIn, Twitter/X, and Amazon. To read more about Unspoken Hindu Genocides and Ethnic Cleansing, go to Part 1 of this interview.


The subject of genocide and ethnic cleansing is a difficult one to approach and to face. What kind of emotional journey did you go through as you read Noakhali 1946 and prepared to translate it?
This was an extremely difficult journey. Most modern Indians grow up with the stories of partition horrors, the genocide, and stories of millions of refugees, and the stories from the medieval torture of Islamic invasion, and the stories of Jwahar (An act that Hindu women of the North Western states did of mass self-immolation together to resist sexual assault and sexual slavery of the Islamic invaders of which the most important story is the story of the invasion of the fort of Chitor by the invaders from Turkmenistan, led by Alauddin Khalji; Khalij’s aim was to subjugate Chitor and abduct the beautiful Hindu Queen Padmini. The king Rana Ratan Singh was killed in a battle, and Queen Padmini with 12,000 women performed the Jwahar).

Nonetheless, when the actual stories of killing were coming live via the translation of Noakhali 1946, it was very hard. This was aggravated by the latest news of the continuous attacks on Hindus in Bangladesh trickling in via the news and social media. The same stories as Noakhali 1946 were happening in Bangladesh as I was planning to translate this book: attacks on Hindu festivals, desecration of Hindu temples, killing, abduction of Hindu girls, using various methods to prohibit them from performing their festivals. There were times when I thought I needed a break from this and go and do something else. Nonetheless, I kept telling myself that I owed it to my people and other people who have gone through similar experiences and to the future generations indeed to bring this out, for a lot of our past and how people responded to these past incidents will determine our future. If we as a human community with our diverse way of thinking and acting and our diverse belief systems must survive and thrive, we must recognize our past, our failures, our successes and how what people did to each other in the past can affect our relationship with each other in the future. So, it is not just a story about Hindu genocide and oppression, but a story about humanity and about our global future.

Interesting, for the first time, I starting to connect with some family members whose parents (or grandparents) fled East Pakistan during or after the partition. Many of their stories were like well-preserved family secrets. When I was growing up, I felt that whenever people started talking about the days of their refugee status, they tried to suppress it. Now I know they felt ashamed and guilty talking about their victim status. I am finding out that it is globally true.

People who have been victims of colonization and genocide feel guilty and ashamed to talk about it, although, they were never at fault for their suffering! For generations they built a life by getting education and wealth. Many in the second generation had well off sophisticated lives and did not wish to talk about this. In fact, their refugee past was an embarrassment. When I started asking them questions, some of them opened up and this gave me a sense of anchorage and a reason to follow through the translation despite the mental agony. It also gave me a chance to investigate some of the intergenerational issues with my mother, who is usually more intolerant of Muslims than I am. I could slowly understand her pain and the reason for her intolerance. I called my mother, who lives in India, to talk about her memories when they had to leave East Bengal (now Bangladesh) to come to a more secure place in West Bengal, the bordering state of India, before the partition of India. She said that my grandfather knew that bad days were coming for Hindus, and they had to leave their homes. Interestingly, she said, that they were lucky that they left Bangladesh before the partition of India; in 1947, 14 million people were fleeing and there was no place in trains or boats to flee. I connected with others who have worked on this and some groups who support Hindu refugees.

What sustained me through this journey of translation was my decision to visit Bangladesh and my ancestral home. It was a difficult decision as my family was scared for my safety; nonetheless, something told me that I had to do this. This journey was very important for me to go back into the past and visit some of the Hindu pilgrimages in Bangladesh, that my mother and grandmother always talked about. I visited several Temples and even those that were destroyed and rebuilt. I visited a Buddhist Monastery built in ancient India that was destroyed and rebuilt. I spoke to many people, both of Hindu and Buddhist faith, who were persecuted and still feel unsafe. They gave me important insights into how they negotiate this daily. With this journey, I felt anchored and empowered to continue my translation work. I felt I was not alone in the world struggling with specters of the past in bringing the past to light, there were thousands of others who were living with these memories but never talked about them.

When did the idea to translate the book first come to you? What was the impetus to finally get started?
I came to know about the book via a message from a friend on social media. The idea to write something on the historical colonization of Bharat is not new for me. I was thinking of it for a long time and doing my research on this issue. When I read Noakhali 1946, I decided to start by translating this book. The Hindu genocide in Noakhali is a watershed that brings the past, present, and future of Islamic colonization of Bharat, and of Asia in general; reading this, one gets a sense of a seamless history of the brutality of forced conversion, the breaking of the Temples, and the taking of millions as slaves to the Middle East.

The issue perhaps that is most important here is the phenomenon of forced conversion as part of that invasion. For often Muslims in the Asian nations like Afghanistan, the Indian sub-continent, Malaysian, Indonesia, etc. are negotiating their present Islamic identities and their Hindu and Buddhist past from which they often derive many of their cultural practices. This is possibly the case in Africa where Islam came in first with the merchants and then via the sword. Often Muslims in the sub-continent are not regarded as “pure” Muslims by those in Arabia, because they have retained some of their past cultural practices. Efforts are made to transform their identities into strong Muslim identities. This process is not just something on the local or personal level but will have a global impact on inter-faith communications, relations of nations in many parts of the world and indeed the entire global politics. So, when I read this book, I had the idea immediately to translate it for a global audience and use this as a platform for further research and writing.

The impetus was the continuous trickling in of the news from Bangladesh of harassment of Hindus, the killing, the burning of Hindu homes, the iconoclasts, the desecration of their temples and festivals. Again, this is not merely political, but personal for me, for Bangladesh, a place that passed through two identities. In 1947 it was a state in India, Bengal, and then a state in Pakistan, East Pakistan, and then an independent nation, Bangladesh. Again, all this is personal for me, as this is where my forefathers were from and where they overnight became Kafirs or unbelievers and had to leave. Furthermore, the impetus came from the ongoing conflict of Hindus and Muslims in the sub-continent. The hatred of Muslims towards the Hindus and vice versa form a background narrative of the daily lives of people in the Indian sub-continent and round the globe. All these conflicts are rooted in the past and the Noakhali 1946 genocide was one of these moments and a vital confluence of the past, present, and future.

In addition, another impetus was my interest in the philosophy of Ahimsa of Gandhi, something I also talk about in my classes. To fight against the British Raj, Gandhi used the method of Ahimsa, loosely translated as nonviolence. This is also the same method he tried to use in Noakhali in the face of extreme brutality faced by the unarmed Hindus. As I did my research on Ahimsa, I realized that Ahimsa was not merely nonviolence, as most believe. It is a complete transformation of the Self. It involves an acknowledgement of the existence of the other in the fullest sense. In its purest form, Ahimsa is a type of Yoga that must be practiced continually. The more I read about how Gandhi advised the victims (Hindus in Noakhali, especially Hindu women), the more I was intrigued and felt I either did not understand the philosophy of Ahimsa or Gandhi was completely wrong in his approach in dealing with extreme brutality and oppression. I wanted the world to judge this philosophy for themselves by reading about its application in Noakhali and thinking if in the present world Ahimsa is a viable form of resistance. This gave me a further impetus to translate this book.

Do you have a favorite quote from Unspoken Hindu Genocides and Ethnic Cleansing that you’d like to share? Or one that gets to the heart of the whole?
I think my favorite quote from the book is a lecture from Pir Golam Sarwar, as it summarizes the reason for the killings and is the pillar on which the past, present and future Hindu genocide is based.

“Sarwar took the microphone and started speaking. He said, “Alhamdulillah! We are Muslims, we have two types of countries. Dar Ul Islam and Dar Ul Harb. In 1803 when the British captured Delhi then the famous Alim Shah Haji gave a fatwa that the nation is now a Dar Ul harb. It is not of a Muslim to accept Dar Ul harb. It is said in the Quran. Now the Europeans will leave this nation. In their places will come the Musrik (h)indus…. Muslims can never live under Musrik (H)indus. (H) can never live in Pakistan. Only Jews and Christians can stay there as dhimmis paying Jiziya tax. But Musrik (Hindus) are dirty, and profane. They have no place in Dar ul Islam. We will not accept their idolatry. Our Prophet broke all the idols after occupying it, so that no one can make idols, it is your duty to destroy all the idols, and the Monasteries and Temples. If we break their temples, it will break their guts. Then everyone must read the Kalima (or the five pillars of Islam), and they must be fed beef. We must do this work together. But not everyone will accept your words. A spear must be pointed at their chest. If they refuse, then a couple could be killed. …As the Sura Anfal says, In the booty, the wives, and daughters, of the (H)indus are also yours… you can do whatever you wish…But yes you must give all the booty to the Amir…” (Unspoken Hindu Genocides and Ethnic Cleansing, pp. 28-29).

This is not only my favorite quote but also historically and politically the most important quote that bring history to the present. This quote shows that it was not a one-time killing of Hindus in a place called Noakhali, now in Bangladesh at that time part of India. It is a planned annihilation of an entire civilization, called Jihad. The word “Jihad” comes from the Arabic word Jahada meaning “strain,” “exertion,” “endeavor” on behalf or for the sake of something. Jihad is translated by E.W. Lane as “the using, or exerting one’s utmost power, efforts, endeavors, or ability, in contending with an object of disappropriation… namely a visible enemy, the devil, and one’s self.” There are three senses of the term Jihad:

Jihad bi al-nafs: Jihad against one’s sinful inclinations.
Jihad Al qwal: Preaching of the tongue.
Jihad bi al-sayf: Jihad of the sword.
∙ The last is the greater Jihad as opposed to the first, which is the lesser Jihad.
∙ Most mainstream Sunni tradition takes Jihad in the last sense.

This is important for us globally to be how some systems of colonial power work. It wants to bring the entire world under one faith, one law, and one State with no diversity, no pluralism. It is important to note that in the Islamic Jurisprudence there are two main types of lands, Dar Ul Harb, the ungoverned land, and Dar Ul Islam, the governed land with (Islamic) laws. There are “in between” lands, like the Dar Ul Sulk and Dar Ul Ahd, these are the lands of covenant or truce. A Muslim is not allowed to live in an ungoverned land or Dar Ul Harb, but momentarily can live in Dar Ul Sulk and Dar Ul Ahd, until a Jihad is declared and then society is transformed into Dar Ul Islam, the Utopian land governed by Islam and everyone submits to Islam. In this sense, parts of Africa, India, Europe, and other continents are all Jahiliyas, that is pre State lands that have to be transformed to “civilized ones.” Jahiliya is much like Hobbes’s State of Nature and have to be eventually transformed into a civilized land. This idea is not much different from other colonial mission of “civilizing the natives.”

The entire idea from the first Islamic invasion in a military campaign led by Muhammad ibn Qasim al-Thaqafi in 711 CE. was the establishment of the Dar Ul Islam. So the Jihad or struggle to annihilate the last ancient civilization is the real aim and Noakhali 1946 is only a symptom. We cannot understand Jihad as terrorism, but a highly structured and organized system of power that makes it a moral duty of every Muslim, as prescribed by their faith. Of course, one could say that it all depends on how one interprets the scriptures. Nonetheless, we as Kafirs see the playing out of violence on our lives via colonization and genocide and that is what makes sense of us. Via the use of the word “Musrik” and (H)indus, cutting of the “H”, the Pir is already “othering” a group of people, who can then be annihilated and that it is the moral duty of Muslims to do so.

Tell us how the book came together.
My publisher, Community Publishing, published a poetry book prior to this. It took me over a year to translate Noakhali 1946. A student, who is interested in Hindu genocide, helped me with some of the editing. Prof. Lakshmi Bandlamudi wrote the foreward. The actual publication took longer than expected as the printer had some issues with the formatting and the cover. Nonetheless, it was solved after a six week delay and Unspoken Hindu Genocides and Ethnic Cleansing was published in October 2024.

What writing projects are you working on now?
I am writing on the Hindu Genocide in Kashmir, Sindh (now in Pakistan), and the genocide in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh), with special emphasis on forced conversion and occupation of Hindu women’s womb. I am specially focusing on how Kashmir, the seat of Hindu civilization was Islamized over 700 years and now how slowly the last of the Kashmiri Hindus who were forced to leave in the 1990s are trying to rebuild some of their past. I am also trying to research on Muslim identities in Asia, who have been converted a couple generations ago and follow many Hindu and Buddhist traditions and how they negotiate some of the conflicting features of their identities, and what it means for them to be a “Muslim.” I am also building communities with Yezidis of Iraq and some of the African people who have kept memories of their pagan pasts alive via research into the trans-Saharan African slave trade, the brutal castration of African slave boys, and the history of eunuchs. This feature is specific to the Islamic colonization. My research interest is, what was the life of these eunuchs once they were castrated? Did they have any pleasure after castration? How did they negotiate their identities and sexuality?

Is there anything else you’d like readers to know?
Both Noakhali 1946 as well as my research have implications for the future of our earth. The conflicts between Jews and Christians and Muslims are, I believe, a political conflict; the conflict between Hinduism and Islam, on the other hand, is an ontological one and it is the ultimate conflict. In fact one of the Hadiths in the Quran says that the last Gazwa or raiding will be the land of the infidels, India or Bharat. Why? If we go through the history of Islam in Arabia, we will see that the Prophet of Islam was neither a Jew nor a Christian, although there were minority Jews and Christians in Arabia at that time. The Prophet belonged to the Quraysh tribe who prayed in the Temple of Hubal (now the Ka’baa, the most Holy site of Islam) to Hubal and the three Goddesses, Al Manat, Al Uzzat, Al Lat. Then, after his marriage to Khajida, a local wealthy widow, the Prophet was influenced by Waraqah ibn Nawfal, an elderly cousin of Khadija, who converted to Christianity, and inspired the Prophet to follow monotheism. The Prophet went to meditate on Mount Hira and heard some voices and revelations about a new faith. He related this to Waraqah ibn Nawfal who told him to rely on what he heard. The revelations said that the Prophet was born to teach a new religion, following the teaching of Prophet Abraham, and reform Prophet Abraham’s teachings. Interestingly, there was a monotheistic system in Arabia at that time, Hanafi, which was adopted as one of the Jurisprudences in Islamic law, apart from Hanabali, Salafi, and Maliki. The Prophet was not very successful in spreading his new religion, he was persecuted for it. Some of the new converts fled to Christian Ethiopia. The Prophet with his followers performed a Hijra or migration to Medina. Then after several Gazwa or raiding on Meccan caravans, of which the Battle of Badr is decisive, he was able to win over Mecca and the Temple. After one unsuccessful attempt, the Prophet with an army of 10,000 went to capture Mecca and converted the most influential person, Abu Sufiyan, destroyed all the idols of the Temple and converted it to the Ka’baa.

The above history is important for us, for it shows that the primary antithesis of Islam was the polytheists, his tribe Quraysh and their Gods and Goddesses, very similar to Hinduism. It is also important to note, that the Hubal, probably a descendent of the Canaanite God Baal, was a God of fertility with a crescent moon and whose mound was a bull. This is what the Hindu God Shiva is. He is the Supreme destroyer, who wears the crescent moon on his head, and rides the bull. Probably, both Gods symbolize fertility which is why the bull is the mound. Hence, ontologically, Hinduism is the primary antithesis of Islam. The call of Gazwa I Hind or the Gazwa Tul Hind, the battle for Hindustan or Bharat (India) will be, according to one Hadith, the last most bloody battle, after which a world Caliphate will be established. All these are of course part of a story, like in all scriptures, nonetheless, we cannot take these lightly and brush it aside, for many take this as the coming history of the world. This is important for us in the present scenario of world politics and conflict and who will take which side and how the future of the world will be settled.

Noakhali 1946 (Untold Hindu Genocides and Ethnic Cleansing) is not just a genocide of Hindus and the danger of Hindu existence. It is a historical document about the future of humanity and global peace. I hope this book will encourage readers to do more research on the origin of Islam, the meaning of Jihad in Islam, and how those who dream of a global Caliphate via Jihad, think. It is a book that should make us curious about the days and how in a world that is fast globalizing and transforming. I was brought up where culturally there is belief amongst people in rebirth and cyclic time. In feminist theory, too, we talk about cyclic times. If rebirth is true, then it is possible we will all be back again in a different form in a different place, maybe as a tree or an animal. In whatever form, in whatever race, ethnicity, or faith we come back, one thing is certain, our lives, including those of nature and animals are interconnected and we cannot ignore each other or our past, however brutal that is. It is our connection to each other, friends or foes, in this or past lives, that shapes our identities. This is why, these stories have to be told and retold. They are the glues like the Vedas, Ramayana and the Mahabharata, that binds us, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Christians, Zoroastrians, whites, Africans, Natives, mammals, birds, plants, or trees. Our future lies in our effort and intention to create a space where we can live with differences and talk of past injustices and still be at peace and harmony with each other.


KLWagoner150_2KL Wagoner loves creating worlds of fantasy and science fiction. Her current work in progress is The Last Bonekeeper fantasy trilogy and short stories in the same universe. A member of SouthWest Writers since 2006, Kat has worked as the organization’s secretary, newsletter editor, website manager, and author interview coordinator. Kat is also a veteran, a martial art student, and a grandmother. Visit her at klwagoner.com.




An Interview with Dr. Rinita Mazumdar, Part 1

Rinita Mazumdar, PhD is an author and poet and one of the leading feminist scholars in the Southwest. She has taught Philosophy for over 30 years in different locations across the U.S., including the University of New Mexico and Central New Mexico Community College. Her nonfiction book Unspoken Hindu Genocides and Ethnic Cleansing is a translation of Sandip Mukherji’s Noakhali 1946 and was released by Community Publishing in October 2024. Look for Dr. Mazumdar on her blog and podcast, as well as on LinkedIn, Twitter/X, and Amazon. To read more about Unspoken Hindu Genocides and Ethnic Cleansing, go to Part 2 of this interview.


When you began translating Noakhali 1946, what did you hope to accomplish? By the end of the journey, do you feel you were successful in your goals?
By translating this book, I hoped to bring to the global audience an intensely personal story that is also 100% political, based on the shared experiences of millions of people on this planet for over eight hundred years. Noakhali 1946 (the original Bengal title of this book, which is how I will refer to the book in the rest of this interview) is a watershed in the history of the Indian sub-continent and indeed the human history of a people’s tragedy, horror, resilience and survival.

Little does the outside world know the story of the Hindus and Hindu civilization. The Hindu journey, covering 6000 years, spatially stretches from what is now Afghanistan (depicted as Gandhara in the Hindu epic Mahabharata, the world’s longest poem), Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, stretching to Khamboja (Cambodia) and Indonesia is not only a history of the Vedas and the millions of philosophical sutras and art and architecture, but also one of persecution, forced conversion, genocide, iconoclasm, abduction, humiliation, culminating in modern time in the brutal partition of a land considered sacred by millions, India, that they know as Bharat (I will refer to India both as India and Bharat subsequently; India is also called Hindustan, the land of the Hindus) into India and Pakistan (West Pakistan and Bangladesh) in 1947; a division where 99% of the people had no choice and almost no Hindus had consent. I wanted to tell that story as it is unique in world history for its civilizational continuity. It is a story of my people who showed tremendous resilience, an unwavering faith in their own belief system, and their strength to sustain a wounded civilization and reconstruct it from time to time.

According to anthropologist Levi Strauss, myths give structure to absurdity; probably it is the millions of stories and myths passed from generation to generation that maintained the continuity of this culture despite numerous invasions, conquests, and brutalization. It is a story that the world needs to know how sacred text, epics, and tales constitute the glue and backbone of this continuity. In this long civilizational history, Noakhali 1946 has an important place as it marked the history of the past, present, and future in a moment by being the catalyst to India’s independence in 1947 and her entry into modernity at the same time, creating two nations out of one, a land of believers, Pakistan, and a land of Kafirs or unbelievers, India. It is a trauma of not only lost homes and of displacement and killing but also of realizing that despite their numerous deities and long philosophical traditions, they are Kafirs, unbelievers, and “others” with whom the followers of one true faith, Islam, cannot live in the same space. It was not only a history of partition, but also a history of the largest movement of human beings, refugees, across borders.

An estimated official record says that 14 million people were displaced and were refugees in 1947 during India’s independence and the partition. A legacy of this brutal partition was carried on again in 1971 when Pakistan was further divided into Pakistan and a new nation Bangladesh after a decisive war between Pakistan and India when India helped the Bangladeshi Mukti Bahini, the guerrilla freedom fighters to win their freedom against a brutal oppressive Pakistani regime. This time an estimated 10 million refugees moved into India from East Pakistan. This also is an important event in global history. India won the war led by Mrs. Indira Gandhi standing against the U.S. continuous support of Pakistan and its army by supplying weapons and logistics by President Nixon. The wound of 1947, the partition, was partially healed when India won the war and made Bangladesh into a free nation. The historical Noakhali genocide foreshadowed the coming war of 1971, the biggest after World War II.

I hoped by reading Noakhali 1946 people in the West would get a sense of how an ancient civilization was brutalized and yet how the world still has not recognized that brutality and how despite resistance from religions like Islam and Christianity, the Hindu faith is still the third largest in terms of followers in the world.

On the personal side, I wanted to tell my story and hoped to build bridges with others whose stories of civilizational memory are still hidden. I wanted to build a bridge with colonized people whose stories are being told, or had never been told, by telling our stories of invasion, forced conversion, and genocide. After 1947 each family in Bharat had a story that is different nonetheless, woven in a thread of loss, trauma, and the realization that they could never return to their place of birth. My mother’s family, landowners and wealthy, had to flee the Hindu genocide happening in 1947 in the Eastern part of Bengal, where Noakhali was situated, a continuation of the Noakhali 1946, and which eventually became East Pakistan after August 1947. Except my mother’s uncle (my grandfather’s older brother) and his wife, the entire family fled to India. Overnight, wealthy landowners became penniless refugees, surviving on the small stipend from the Indian Government. Those who were not that lucky got killed or had to convert to Islam.

Noakhali 1946 had an additional interest for me. My paternal uncle was in Noakhali in 1946 with Gandhi. Gandhi called upon young men and women to participate in assisting the victims of Noakhali. My uncle joined him and spent a year in Noakhali, worked with Gandhi’s team. We grew up hearing some of his experiences, although looking back, I realize that he did not give up a full picture of how Gandhi used his philosophy of Ahimsa, loosely translated as nonviolence and did not fully succeed. In addition, in Calcutta, where I grew up and went to college, a metropolis in the Eastern part of India, bordering Bangladesh, where once were open fields was completely inhabited by Hindu refugees who fled during the Noakhali genocide. The trickling of Hindu refugees did not stop once partition happened in 1947. Hindus, Buddhists, and all other persecuted minorities fled East Pakistan and Calcutta, and the rest of India gave them shelter during and after Noakhali in 1947, 1950s, and 1960s. Then came another shock wave of ten million fleeing during the Bangladesh liberation struggle in 1971 that saw one of the world’s most brutal genocide and mass rape with Hindus as specific targets of the Pakistani army. Even after the liberation of Bangladesh from Pakistan, the story remains the same, Hindus were coming in from the neighboring Bangladesh in 70s, 80s, 90, 2002, 2021, 2024….

All this formed the background of my growing up and shaped my consciousness. These also are my reasons to translate Noakhali 1946. I hoped to build a community with similar personal stories of persecution, loss, and brutality around the world by translating this book. I hoped that others who are in this situation now, evicted from their land, persecuted, facing ethnic cleansing and genocide will slowly tell their stories. For it is only our personal stories that can create a sense of community. I am in touch with the Yezidis of Iraq, with similar histories, and some other native communities in Central America, but Africa, with similar histories, must work harder to reach out to more people. I am talking about this book getting translated into other indigenous languages so that more people can see how our communities are connected.

I cannot say that I have fully accomplished my aim in either making the world aware of the brutal history or our resilience nor building cross cultural communities with similar histories, nonetheless, I think it is a start. Hindu genocide, as, unlike other genocides, is an ongoing process.

According to Raphel Lemkin, “… the destruction of a nation or an ethnic group… generally speaking genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is extended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundation of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves.

Noakhali 1946 is just a symptom. The aim of Hindu genocide is to completely eradicate the Hindu civilization. To make that clear to the reader is a daunting task. With the publication of this book and many articles coming out, I am hoping that slowly the past genocide and the aim will become clear to the global audience. I am not alone in this effort. Across University campuses in North America and other places the Hindu Student Council is trying its best to pass on this history onto the next generation. I hope one day this will be a part of the public discourse in the West and we will be able to accomplish the task of building global communities with shared experiences and proceed in our healing process.

In every language certain words, phrases, or concepts don’t translate well. How often did you encounter this dilemma with Noakhali 1946, and what are some examples?
This was one of the biggest challenges in translating this book. I did my best to translate the book as it is given. When there were words that needed to be explained, I put a footnote so that readers can read those. There are several footnotes in the book, not only of words but also of cultural events and cultural icons, deities, so that the readers are able to put them in context. For example, this genocide started after Pir Golam Sarwar, an Imam, gave a call to annihilate all the Hindus in Noakhali. This happened in the first week of October and he said that the Prophet called for an action against the idolators of Arabia in Badr in the same month of the calendar of that time in Arabia. This battle was decisive in Islamic calendar as it eventually led to the Prophet’s army to capture Mecca and the Temple of Hubal and the Goddess, Al Manat, Al Uzaat, Al Lat, and convert the polytheists of Mecca to Islam and turn the Temple in the Qa’baa. Interestingly, as per the Hindu soli lunar calendar, this is the month that Hindus celebrate their largest festival, the festival of Goddess Durga, the demon slayer spanning nine days and culminating in Diwali, the festival of lights. Also, about a week after the festival of Goddess Durga comes the festival of Goddess Laxmi, the Goddess of wealth and prosperity. The mayhem and destruction of Hindu households and temples started on the night of the festival of Goddess Lakshmi. To explain the significance of these events I put elaborate footnote in the battle of Badr in Arabia and the Hindu festivals of Goddess Lakshmi, including her image.

What are some surprising facts you discovered while doing research for this book?
One surprising fact is Gandhi’s reaction to the Noakhali Hindu genocide. We who grew up in India knew from our history lessons about Ahimsa that Gandhi taught. It was more a lesson in theory than praxis. In translating this book, I was amazed how Gandhi applied this. In Noakhali 1946, we read about Sucheta Kripalani, an activist, who later became the Chief Minister (Governor) of Uttar Pradesh, a state in Northern India. She was in Noakhali in 1946 and worked with the victims, especially women. She recounted the absolute degradation of Hindu women and her own life during this time. Her husband, Professor Kripalani, was a politician and activist, and he said in an interview that Gandhi advised Sucheta to carry potassium cyanide and consume it if she was sexually assaulted by a Muslim mob! Is this the kind of Ahimsa resistance that Gandhi was preaching? Also, even when Hindus were being forcibly converted and babies were thrown into fire and killed, Gandhi told them to maintain calm and harmony! This was very surprising, for I thought Ahimsa was a general practice of nonviolence, but did not include this complete passivity on the part of the victim.

I did more research on this issue and saw that Gandhi did the same thing in the Moplah genocide in Southern India in 1922. Moplah is a place in the Malabars, along the coast of Southern India, where in the 12th century some Arab merchants and their families settled. Under their influence many Hindus converted. In 1922, some of them revolted and wanted the Hindus who owned land to convert or leave. When they did not, they were killed. Gandhi said it should be seen as part of the class struggle against landowning Hindus and should be forgiven! He had no explanation of why only Hindu landowning people and not Muslim landowning people were killed! Throughout, he only gave advice to Hindus to be patient, especially Hindu women, who had suffered most and said they must practice Ahimsa, even when they see their children being butchered. Translating this book showed me the irrationality of the entire philosophy of Ahimsa. Nonviolence is certainly, I believe, a better option than violence as a form of resistance; nonetheless, it is also a duty to preserve oneself. I wonder how Gandhi reconciled it in his philosophy of Ahimsa.

Another fact is the number of forced conversions, and the method used to do it. The method was the same everywhere, in Sindh and in Kashmir: First they force fed a Hindu beef, a prohibited meat for Hindus, then they made him read the Kalima, the five pillars in Islam, break an idol, and be declared a Muslim, usually by an Imam. Also, another thing that is surprising is the gendered nature of this conversion. The above type of conversion was/is for men only. For women, it is either rape or forced marriage with a Muslim man, and the process of conversion was complete.

What was the most rewarding aspect of putting this project together?
According to psychoanalytical theory, when the ego is overwhelmed by painful memories, usually, a mechanic called repression works and that memory is repressed. Later sometimes the memory returns covertly in the form of a metaphor. In the gaps and silences when talking about the partition, genocide, forced conversion, and iconoclasts, I felt that people in my family were often silent and there were gaps. Now, when the stories are coming out and when several of my family members have read the book, they are starting to talk about it openly. This has been rewarding for me and for the family in general. Another rewarding thing is that people from outside the Hindu communities with similar past histories are coming out and reading the book. This is a global issue, and one needs to reach out in order to overcome the feeling of guilt, shame, isolation and loneliness that these painful memories bring.

What did completing this translation teach you about yourself?
It taught me that as a person I am very resilient. I have gone through ups and downs in my life and have come out of them. Working on this book and doing all the research for this book, I realized that I am, like my people, strongly resilient. Many of my extended family who suffered forced eviction and terror in 1947 and in 1971 fled to India, struggled to bring up their children, and now the third or fourth generations are very successful here in the United States and in many places round the world. What sustained them was a strong faith and belief in their own community and in humanity. I also realized that I have strong faith in human beings, despite all the tragedies and conflicts that surround us.

What do you hope readers will take away from the book?
First, while translating this book, I researched on Jihad, as I described above, as a colonial process in the African continent and the Indian sub-continent. Although my research is in no way fully comprehensive, I have reached certain tentative conclusions about this process which I would like to share with the readers. Jihad, as portrayed by the popular media, is not terrorism, but a highly organized network of power, a colonial system that aims at establishing global hegemony. In this sense one could compare it to other global hegemonic powers, like global capitalism or global communism, who want total domination of the globe. Jihad is also intricately linked to racism and the idea of a supremacist philosophy that aims at bringing the entire world under a Caliphate via violent means. Although, it is a utopia at this moment in history, nonetheless, it is possible that it will infiltrate our everyday lives and will change many things we take for granted.


KLWagoner150_2KL Wagoner loves creating worlds of fantasy and science fiction. Her current work in progress is The Last Bonekeeper fantasy trilogy and short stories in the same universe. A member of SouthWest Writers since 2006, Kat has worked as the organization’s secretary, newsletter editor, website manager, and author interview coordinator. Kat is also a veteran, a martial art student, and a grandmother. Visit her at klwagoner.com.




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